Great illustration of the different holster types. I attend a "come as you are" church where having a large cover garment to cover the level 2 safariland, aliengear, or G-Code would make the wearer of the holster fairly conspicuous, particularly if they are on the portly side. How would you evaluate the physical security of the firearm vs. the need to keep it concealed.
Thanks Keith. I really appreciate your experience and your opinion. I have just purchased a level 2 holster because of your videos and advice. Keep up the good work. Also, thank you for taking on the responsibility for the Church Treat Level. May God bless and protect you. Always Be Carrying.
As (nearly) the sole protector of our aging and rural congregation, all the information on the website, the videos, and this podcast is very helpful. There are a lot of folks who pass on info in the webisphere, but most are short on actual experiences that demonstrate a particular point...I appreciate the personal accounts you offer. I can only imagine how full your schedule is, but if you can provide these podcasts when you are able, your audience will benefit that much more. A detail I locked onto in your shooting drill video makes my point...the ability to back up rapidly while trying to shoot (or even when confronting someone) is a critical skill as many fall or trip when doing it. I fear many folks may have missed your explanation of reverse high-stepping to avoid tripping. I personally get more out of a "why" explanation that can be presented more fully in a podcast than a video. Long answer to say please keep it up.
Thanks so much. I enjoy everything you send out. We’re a small team at church, dealing with no training etc. I take upon myself to try and train. I’m changing my holster today after listening and watching your video. I started our team an about ten years ago upon request from our pastor. After a few years I turned it over to an LE member in hopes for training, this has not happened even once in 8 years. We don’t open carry in church. I’ll be changing to a owb with shirt to conceal. Do you plan on any church security seminars in your area. I’m in Aberdeen, Wa.
Truly appreciate the podcast, and look forward to more content!
I would love to hear your perspective on recommended training for hands-on/physical confrontation. Not sure what type of instructor would be ideal to train the team.
Pepper spray: should everyone on the team carry it?
Mindset briefing: what kind of talk would you have to mentally prepare a new team, and dealing with issues like members not wanting to carry, physical fitness/strength issues, etc....
Thanks Keith. For ALL my weapons I own both level 1 IWB and level 3 duty holsters. One of the Major problems i find in the holster industry is this...many of us select firearms for various purposes, I will use an example of the CZ75 PCR. While this weapon maybe isnt so mainstream it is/was used by the czech police. This is/was one of my carry weapons. I chose it because of its reliability, compactness, all metal construction, its function is similar to the 1911, ie double action. When practicing dry fire I wasnt pulled into the bad habit of having to re-rack the slide on every draw. However, the problem I ran into is that there are few holster choices available for it. I, too was stuck with a level 1 hoster and the best I could find was a level 2. Yeah i know, everyone says just get a glock. I own a couple and I just dont like them. All this being said, if you have trouble finding a level 3 holster there are kits you can buy to modify your holster to make it a level 2 or 3. Keep in mind, I said you will have to "modify your holster". Out of frustration with this situation I started making my own hybrid holsters.
I own a LOT of guns. I have guns to address specific purposes. If a Glock isn't your thing, no worries. TBH, I like my Glocks for duty purposes. For SWAT and other tactical purposes, I like a 2011. That CZ you have is a great gun!
Currently I use the springfield XDM OSP 3.8 in 10mm...great shooting gun. Again, the same problem lack of holsters (made my own again), and because its so new lack of 3rd party aftermarket parts. But so far malfunction free "bear killer". What can I say? I like my snowflake weapons, LOL!! Im like you Keith. Mission drives the gear, thats what drives my purchases mostly.
Maybe Christians have never needed to protect themselves, but it has often been their duty to protect others--believer and unbelievers. And as Christians, we have no problem protecting synagogues from physical violence. Remember--we are only as safe as the people we disagree with the most.
Saying that "Christians have never needed to protect themselves" is the logical equivalent of saying that a shepherd never needs to defend himself.
1 Sam. 17:34 And David said unto Saul, Thy servant kept his father's sheep, and there came a lion, and a bear, and took a lamb out of the flock:
17:35 And I went out after him, and smote him, and delivered [it] out of his mouth: and when he arose against me, I caught [him] by his beard, and smote him, and slew him.
Notice that David was not being attacked by the predator. However, when he went to rescue the lamb, that made the predator angry, and then David actually did need to defend himself.
It is the same for Christians, who watch over the flock of God.
What information do you have available on the inherent safety issues with the Blackhawk Serpa holsters of there various models offered by Blackhawk. Thanks
Keith thank you so much for you insight on holsters. We just started our church security team. I have moved to a second level holster and will move to an RDS very soon
I just ordered the Alien Gear level 2 shoulder holster. I will see how well it works with an open shirt or sport coat. Then lots of training! Your thoughts?
Just outstanding information. Have been working in law enforcement most of my life I learn something new and useful everyday. Please keep up with your information sharing. Thank you
Good evening, Keith. I know you mention you can conceal a mid to full size pistol with a retention holster. Could you provide some examples on how you do this, especially on the coming summer months where wearing jackets or other similar items will make you stand out?
Thank you Keith for all you do! I really appreciate it. I didn't even know the holster classification system existed until I saw your video a couple of days ago. I appreciate your weekly church violence reports and would like to see a report of ony trends that are apparent in your data for the time period you've been providing this information. Thanks again.
Great illustration of the different holster types. I attend a "come as you are" church where having a large cover garment to cover the level 2 safariland, aliengear, or G-Code would make the wearer of the holster fairly conspicuous, particularly if they are on the portly side. How would you evaluate the physical security of the firearm vs. the need to keep it concealed.
We worry too much about how we appear. Most people don’t even notice.
Thank you Keith, love the content!!
Thank you for what you do Brother
Thanks Keith. I really appreciate your experience and your opinion. I have just purchased a level 2 holster because of your videos and advice. Keep up the good work. Also, thank you for taking on the responsibility for the Church Treat Level. May God bless and protect you. Always Be Carrying.
As (nearly) the sole protector of our aging and rural congregation, all the information on the website, the videos, and this podcast is very helpful. There are a lot of folks who pass on info in the webisphere, but most are short on actual experiences that demonstrate a particular point...I appreciate the personal accounts you offer. I can only imagine how full your schedule is, but if you can provide these podcasts when you are able, your audience will benefit that much more. A detail I locked onto in your shooting drill video makes my point...the ability to back up rapidly while trying to shoot (or even when confronting someone) is a critical skill as many fall or trip when doing it. I fear many folks may have missed your explanation of reverse high-stepping to avoid tripping. I personally get more out of a "why" explanation that can be presented more fully in a podcast than a video. Long answer to say please keep it up.
Thanks so much. I enjoy everything you send out. We’re a small team at church, dealing with no training etc. I take upon myself to try and train. I’m changing my holster today after listening and watching your video. I started our team an about ten years ago upon request from our pastor. After a few years I turned it over to an LE member in hopes for training, this has not happened even once in 8 years. We don’t open carry in church. I’ll be changing to a owb with shirt to conceal. Do you plan on any church security seminars in your area. I’m in Aberdeen, Wa.
Jim Furubotten
I’m glad all of this is helping. I do have a gunshot wound class planned for her June 2nd. https://christianwarriortraining.ezycourse.com/event/trauma-tactics-series-level-1-gunshot-wound-response
Truly appreciate the podcast, and look forward to more content!
I would love to hear your perspective on recommended training for hands-on/physical confrontation. Not sure what type of instructor would be ideal to train the team.
Pepper spray: should everyone on the team carry it?
Mindset briefing: what kind of talk would you have to mentally prepare a new team, and dealing with issues like members not wanting to carry, physical fitness/strength issues, etc....
Thank you for all you do!
Great points. I'll be addressing all of these in the future.
Thanks Keith. For ALL my weapons I own both level 1 IWB and level 3 duty holsters. One of the Major problems i find in the holster industry is this...many of us select firearms for various purposes, I will use an example of the CZ75 PCR. While this weapon maybe isnt so mainstream it is/was used by the czech police. This is/was one of my carry weapons. I chose it because of its reliability, compactness, all metal construction, its function is similar to the 1911, ie double action. When practicing dry fire I wasnt pulled into the bad habit of having to re-rack the slide on every draw. However, the problem I ran into is that there are few holster choices available for it. I, too was stuck with a level 1 hoster and the best I could find was a level 2. Yeah i know, everyone says just get a glock. I own a couple and I just dont like them. All this being said, if you have trouble finding a level 3 holster there are kits you can buy to modify your holster to make it a level 2 or 3. Keep in mind, I said you will have to "modify your holster". Out of frustration with this situation I started making my own hybrid holsters.
I own a LOT of guns. I have guns to address specific purposes. If a Glock isn't your thing, no worries. TBH, I like my Glocks for duty purposes. For SWAT and other tactical purposes, I like a 2011. That CZ you have is a great gun!
Currently I use the springfield XDM OSP 3.8 in 10mm...great shooting gun. Again, the same problem lack of holsters (made my own again), and because its so new lack of 3rd party aftermarket parts. But so far malfunction free "bear killer". What can I say? I like my snowflake weapons, LOL!! Im like you Keith. Mission drives the gear, thats what drives my purchases mostly.
Ooh, can’t wait to read some of these responses!
You know, because Christians have never needed to protect themselves. And while we’re at it, let me know where to chip in for Synagogues.
Maybe Christians have never needed to protect themselves, but it has often been their duty to protect others--believer and unbelievers. And as Christians, we have no problem protecting synagogues from physical violence. Remember--we are only as safe as the people we disagree with the most.
Saying that "Christians have never needed to protect themselves" is the logical equivalent of saying that a shepherd never needs to defend himself.
1 Sam. 17:34 And David said unto Saul, Thy servant kept his father's sheep, and there came a lion, and a bear, and took a lamb out of the flock:
17:35 And I went out after him, and smote him, and delivered [it] out of his mouth: and when he arose against me, I caught [him] by his beard, and smote him, and slew him.
Notice that David was not being attacked by the predator. However, when he went to rescue the lamb, that made the predator angry, and then David actually did need to defend himself.
It is the same for Christians, who watch over the flock of God.
Of course Christians have had to protect themselves, along with others. WE STILL DO.
What information do you have available on the inherent safety issues with the Blackhawk Serpa holsters of there various models offered by Blackhawk. Thanks
Keith thank you so much for you insight on holsters. We just started our church security team. I have moved to a second level holster and will move to an RDS very soon
Thank you for your teaching and guidance.
I just ordered the Alien Gear level 2 shoulder holster. I will see how well it works with an open shirt or sport coat. Then lots of training! Your thoughts?
Just outstanding information. Have been working in law enforcement most of my life I learn something new and useful everyday. Please keep up with your information sharing. Thank you
Good evening, Keith. I know you mention you can conceal a mid to full size pistol with a retention holster. Could you provide some examples on how you do this, especially on the coming summer months where wearing jackets or other similar items will make you stand out?
Does anyone know a good level 2 holster for a CZ P10C?
Thank you Keith for all you do! I really appreciate it. I didn't even know the holster classification system existed until I saw your video a couple of days ago. I appreciate your weekly church violence reports and would like to see a report of ony trends that are apparent in your data for the time period you've been providing this information. Thanks again.
The briefing on carry holsters was very helpful, thank you